Answer by pakman for Support exFAT
News came out yesterday that raises the prospect of the old exFAT issue being finally resolved: [Microsoft's only gone and published the exFAT spec, now supports popping it in the Linux...
View ArticleComment by juiceme
I suppose it depends on the country you reside. On some you might get jailtime for installing de-CSS... :) However, in finland at least there is no problem distributing and using patented algorithms as...
View ArticleAnswer by ScumCoder for Support exFAT
Okay, I definitely suck as a lawyer, but I simply don't see any problem here. There are *lots* of patented formats which you can't (officially) use in your product without paying a fee. But if you are...
View ArticleAnswer by cemoi71 for Support exFAT
did someone give a look on it?: [exfat google code](https://code.google.com/p/exfat/) [Samsung Properly Open-Sources exFAT File-System](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQzODQ )
View ArticleComment by simo
Full-featured includes write as well: "This project aims to provide a full-featured exFAT file system implementation for GNU/Linux"
View ArticleComment by aegis
Perhaps I'm missing something but does the name of the project - exfat-read-only - not suggest that is read only support?
View ArticleAnswer by simo for Support exFAT
Good workaround: ExFAT support on Linux can be achieved with installing FUSE plugin, see for example this implementation https://code.google.com/p/exfat/wiki/HOWTO
View ArticleAnswer by tuniek for Support exFAT
https://together.jolla.com/question/68538/official-announcement-supporting-larger-microsd-cards-in-the-jolla-tablet-your-input-is-needed/ ?? ?? ?? :)
View ArticleComment by RobNas
"Did you open a question on the subject?" Several times, I guess. I'm using a Parrot carkit
View ArticleComment by aegis
Bluetooth works perfectly for me too with a Nokia bh221, Philips shb9100, jabra car kit and some cheapo headset I got in a kit.
View ArticleComment by Keeper-of-the-Keys
@RobNas at the very high risk of going OT: I just got myself a new bluetooth headset (lg tone pro) and am having no problems whatsoever adjusting the volume either through the headset or from the...
View ArticleComment by RobNas
I still hope for paying for exfat as an option, but this is already proposed almost a year ago, without answer from Jolla (thus means = doesn't hear, thus means = no confidence). I've been asking for...
View ArticleComment by aegis
On the Mac, putting ssh:// of sftp:// into Finder gives you an error. In Safari ssh:// opens a terminal. There is no sshfs support as standard. filezilla and fireftp do not support sshfs as I...
View ArticleComment by Keeper-of-the-Keys
IIRC the command line ssh tools (ssh, sftp, scp) come with Mac out of the box, filezilla, fireftp and others all support it. "sshfs" as putting ssh://ip/path in the filebrowser is very likely not...
View ArticleComment by aegis
IME the Mac gets confused. iPhoto has some simple MTP support built in. There's a subset of MTP for pictures from what I gather but that also doesn't work. iPhoto never shows the images from the Jolla....
View ArticleComment by Keeper-of-the-Keys
That seriously s***s (although MTP also kind of isn't great, sshfs is nicer), how does a jolla behave when connected to a mac, like a mass storage device? (I didn't want to suggest this way since it...
View ArticleComment by Keeper-of-the-Keys
(I know it's an old topic but:) The fs on the memory card doesn't matter to the computer unless you intend to pull it out and use it directly instead of through the MTP link setup by your Jolla...
View ArticleComment by BonoNL
As this duscussion is back on track with the extra goals for the Jolla tablet, I like the idea that it can be bought as a option from the Harbour ass soon as paid apps are possible. You want exFAT...
View ArticleComment by pycage
Offering exFAT as paid item in store sounds like the better solution to me. There's no point to give money to Microsoft for a feature that > 90% of users probably don't ever need. This way only...
View ArticleComment by aegis
Definitely. The alternatives are to add ext4/btrfs file system support to my Mac and they cost €30 or so and from my testing, not very reliable and not as widely supported as exFAT. But, my intention...
View ArticleAnswer by Kontio for Support exFAT
just to compare with @siggi_digital answer, would you pay for exFAT support let's say additionally 2€ from store?
View ArticleComment by RobNas
If Jolla program Sailfish in a way, when you push in a micro-SD card >32GB, to format it to, say BTRFS, by prompting the user, what does SDXC got to do with it? Then it doesn't support SDXC, but...
View ArticleComment by aegis
@shmerl But they DO have to advertise SDxc support. Otherwise they're at a disadvantage with only 32GB SDHC card support and being stuck with crappy FAT32 for device interoperability. How am I wrong...
View ArticleComment by shmerl
> We can't avoid exFAT because then Jolla could not advertise SDxc support. You are going in circles. No one said Jolla has to advertise SDXC support. I see no point to continue repeating the same...
View ArticleComment by aegis
We can't avoid exFAT because then Jolla could not advertise SDxc support. The two are intrinsically linked. No ExFAT, no SDxc support. You did not fund the licence. You funded the development and your...
View ArticleComment by shmerl
Avoiding adding exFAT as a funding goal. > We can't avoid exFAT No, we can avoid it without preventing those who need to have a choice to get it. Nothing was said why it can't be an optional...
View ArticleComment by aegis
@shmerl Do you mean avoiding funding as a goal or avoiding exFAT? We can't avoid exFAT and you could easily have avoided crowdfunding it by not purchasing the tablet after the stretch goal was added....
View ArticleComment by shmerl
Surely not happy with it. But they aren't added as post factum crowdfunded goal that could be easily avoided. And, you have a good point. Sailfish can offer things more on opt-in basis, and not as by...
View ArticleComment by aegis
@shmerl but you're happy to do that for Exchange support, Google accounts, Facebook, Twitter, MP3, H.264, GSM and a load of other licences we probably don't know about. All of which you're paying for...
View ArticleComment by shmerl
Same here. I don't want crowdfunded money to be wasted on supporting poisonous proprietary lock-in of Microsoft.
View ArticleComment by RobNas
Exfat doesn't per se mean income for Microsoft, because it's not completely closed source. The problem here isn't that Microsoft gets money for it, the problem is that exfat is used as a standard for...
View ArticleComment by aegis
I personally agree. I'm idiologically dissapointed that we have Microsoft Exchange support but no CalDAV or CardDAV. However, on a pragmatic basis exFAT is the defacto standard used on Windows, Mac OS...
View ArticleAnswer by siggi_digital for Support exFAT
I paid 400€ for my jolla, and i don't want to see that MS gets one cent for exfat licensing. Just my thoughts
View ArticleComment by pycage
Is exFAT (not FAT32) really that important? I've never seen it anywhere. And by actively rejecting it, there is still at least the chance to avoid it spread out like a disease or like FAT32.
View ArticleComment by richardski
I do not intend to be regularly removing my internal SD card so compatibility with other systems is not an issue for me. I would much rather my internal SD/XD card had the most compatible file system...
View ArticleComment by foss4ever
Your opinion that exFat licensing in Jolla is imperative for mainstream acceptance does not make it a fact. Besides, Jolla as an unlike open tech company is probably not ecen targeting to become...
View ArticleComment by aegis
If you buy any SD card or USB stick >32GB it comes formatted exFAT. If you want to transfer large files between a Mac and Windows it's the only filesystem both support. I know designers who work in...
View ArticleComment by foss4ever
BTW: funny that you are not aware that there, in fact, is some support for Linux filesystems in M$-OS:es. I know for a fact, that e.g. ext2/3 drivers are available and work fine..
View ArticleSupport exFAT
Currently exFAT is not supported by Sailfish due to licencing issues. Unfortunately it is the native format used for all microSD cards bigger than 32GB as shipped and the default format from Windows...
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